Legislature(2001 - 2002)

03/21/2002 09:13 AM Senate FIN

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     CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 277(RES)                                                                                            
     "An Act relating to the tax levied on pollock processed by a                                                               
     floating fisheries business; and providing for an effective                                                                
     date."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This  was the first  hearing  for this  bill in  the Senate  Finance                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman, the  bill's sponsor,  explained  that this  bill                                                            
addresses inequitable taxes  on the fish processing industry whereby                                                            
some processors  pay  more tax than  others. He  stated the  federal                                                            
American Fisheries Act (AFA) created this situation.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Ward asked what  entities would lose money if this bill were                                                            
enacted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
BRETT  FRIED,   Economist,   Department  of   Revenue,  stated   the                                                            
Department's  fiscal  note,  dated 3/20/02,  anticipates  the  State                                                            
losing  between $333,000  and $400,000  in revenue.  He stated  this                                                            
"range" presentation is the result of confidentially concerns.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Ward  questioned  if other  entities,  in addition  to  the                                                            
State, would loose money under this legislation.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  clarified that communities would also  lose revenue,                                                            
as half of any revenue the State collects from these taxes is re-                                                               
appropriated to them.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Ward theorized  that if the State received $300,000 from the                                                            
fish processors'  tax, communities  would  receive $150,000  of that                                                            
amount; therefore, if the  State collected $300,000, the net loss to                                                            
the State is actually $150,000.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Fried   concurred  with   Senator  Ward's   comment  that   the                                                            
legislation would incur  a net loss to the State and also reduce the                                                            
rebate amount available to communities.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
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KRIS NOROSZ,  Icicle Seafoods,  informed the  Committee that  Icicle                                                            
Seafoods is  a Petersburg, Alaska  corporation established  in 1965.                                                            
She stated  Icicle Seafoods  supports the  committee substitute  for                                                            
this  bill, as  "the  purpose of  the  bill is  to ensure  that  all                                                            
pollock processors  pay the same tax  rate to the State of  Alaska."                                                            
She noted  that in 1998  the AFA, passed  by Congress, "changed  the                                                            
complexion  of the  pollock industry."  She reminded  the  Committee                                                            
that the State of Alaska  has a three percent Fisheries Business Tax                                                            
on shore-based  processing facilities,  and in the 1990's  the State                                                            
passed a  Fishing Resource  Landing Tax which  placed an  additional                                                            
three percent  tax on all fisheries resources "processed  by an off-                                                            
shore floating facility and landed in the State."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Norosz continued  that  the  AFA, sponsored  by  Alaska's  U.S.                                                            
Senator  Ted Stevens,  was enacted  to: "Americanize  the  fishery";                                                            
"rationalize"  the industry; settle  long-standing disputes  on fish                                                            
allocations  for   off-shore  and  on-shore  fishery   sectors;  and                                                            
restrict  the number  of "players"  that could  participate" in  the                                                            
fisheries.  She stated the AFA also  allowed the State of  Alaska to                                                            
tax  all Pollock  industry  participants.  She stated  this  allowed                                                            
Alaska to impose  a three percent Fisheries Resource  Landing Tax on                                                            
the entire  Pollock  industry even  though they  "never operated  or                                                            
brought  product" into  State  waters. She  noted  this resulted  in                                                            
increased revenues to the State.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Norosz  stressed  only  two  floating  pollock  processors  are                                                            
qualified under the AFA  to process Pollock, and they are subject to                                                            
a  five percent  Fisheries  Business  Tax (FBT)  by  the State.  She                                                            
explained to the Committee  the FBT has a differential tax allocated                                                            
to processing  plants on-shore  or floating  offshore plants  within                                                            
three miles of Alaska's shores.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Norosz stated this  bill seeks "to create a level playing field"                                                            
of three  percent  for all  pollock processors  under  the AFA.  She                                                            
stated Icicle  Seafoods is currently  paying a five percent  tax and                                                            
the additional  percentage  makes "it  very difficult  to start  out                                                            
your season knowing that  your costs are going to be higher than any                                                            
of your competitors  when you are  competing in same market  to sell                                                            
that product in."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  asked for confirmation that if a processor  "is tied                                                            
up at the same  location for one year,"  they would qualify  for the                                                            
three percent level.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Norosz responded  that  under  the Fisheries  Business  Tax,  a                                                            
floating processor  could quality  as an on-shore facility  with the                                                            
three percent  tax if they are "permanently  affixed to the  land or                                                            
they  can  stay in  one  location  for  the entire  tax  year."  She                                                            
elaborated these  definitions make it difficult to  perform required                                                            
maintenance, repairs  and inspections to the vessels  for safety and                                                            
environmental considerations.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  inquired as to why  a vessel could not operate  as a                                                            
stationary processing vessel in Dutch Harbor.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Norosz explained  that Icicle Seafood's processor,  the Northern                                                            
Victor, has  a site-specific  waste discharge  permit from  the U.S.                                                            
Environmental  Protection Agency (EPA) that restricts  its operating                                                            
locations. She  stated there is no available space  for the Northern                                                            
Victor in Dutch  Harbor, and it is  "highly unlikely" they  would be                                                            
able to  get a permit for  Dutch Harbor as  the harbor is  suffering                                                            
from air quality standard problems.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  inquired if the five  percent State tax issue  could                                                            
be amended in  this bill to allow a vessel to qualify  for the three                                                            
percent one-year stationery  tax status with provisions to allow for                                                            
movement for routine maintenance and inspection.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Norosz clarified that  Co-Chair Kelly is addressing changing the                                                            
definition   to   "allow   movement   for   periodic   repairs   and                                                            
maintenance,"  and inspection,  but not to  allow for processing  in                                                            
other locations.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly confirmed that is the intent.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Norosz  stated changing the definition  in this manner  would be                                                            
acceptable to Icicle Seafoods.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman,  referring  to the  AFA provision  allowing  the                                                            
State of Alaska to implement  a Resource Landing Tax, asked how much                                                            
money this tax has raised for the State.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Fried did not have that information.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman  asked the  Department of  Revenue to provide  the                                                            
amount to the Committee.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Ward  asked if  the  AFA  limits the  number  of  operating                                                            
pollock processors.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Norosz  responded  the  AFA restricts  the  number  of  pollack                                                            
processing facilities  and identifies qualifications.  She continued                                                            
the  AFA  specified  a  fixed  number  of  on-shore  processors  and                                                            
identified the factory trawlers and their "mother ships."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Ward asked  if the  number  of permitted  factory  trawlers                                                            
could be increased from two to three.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Norosz stated the AFA  limits the number to the current two, and                                                            
the only way for  a new entity to enter the pollock  market would be                                                            
to purchase one of the  current two floating facilities, purchase an                                                            
existing on-shore  plant, or purchase  an eligible existing  factory                                                            
trawler.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Ward asked if there is a value placed on these permits.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Norosz expressed  the difficulty in establishing  values as each                                                            
facility has different capacities, equipment, and the like.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Norosz  described the transaction  process involved when  Icicle                                                            
Seafoods bought  into the pollock  fishery in December of  1999, the                                                            
year following the enacting of the AFA.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Ward asserted  that when  Icicle Seafoods  bought into  the                                                            
pollock fishery the tax was five percent.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Norosz stated that is correct.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilken  characterized  the  AFA  as  dividing  the  pollock                                                            
fishing  industry  into  three  sectors:  "the  off-shore   catcher-                                                            
processor,  the mother  ship  processing at  sea,  and the  on-shore                                                            
plant."  He asked  which tax  level the  offshore catcher-processor                                                             
sector pays to the State.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Norosz  replied  that sector pays  a three  percent tax  because                                                            
there is an additional fisheries resource landing tax.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Fried stated these taxes are not cumulative.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken asked what tax is placed on the "mother ship."                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Norosz responded the "mother ship" pays three percent.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken, noting  the on-shore sector also pays three percent,                                                            
questioned how  the five percent tax is levied if  all three defined                                                            
sectors pay a three percent tax.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Norosz  clarified that the two  floating Pollock processors  are                                                            
assessed the fisheries  business tax as they are considered  part of                                                            
the on-shore sector,  and they pay five percent because  of existing                                                            
state law.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilken  asked  in  which  of  the  three  sectors  the  two                                                            
aforementioned vessels are classified.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Norosz replied  the vessels are considered part  of the on-shore                                                            
sector.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilken verified  they are not  considered offshore  catcher                                                            
processors  or mother ships,  but are rather  "sub-sets" of  the on-                                                            
shore processors.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken  inquired about the  process used to determine  which                                                            
tax is levied.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Norosz  stated that floating pollock  processors are  defined as                                                            
vessels  "that are  not  permanently  affixed to  the  land or  that                                                            
doesn't stay in one location for the entire tax year."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilken  inquired  if this  definition  applies  to the  two                                                            
vessels holding the permits.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Norosz confirmed it does.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken asked if  a facility affixed to the shore is required                                                            
to pay local taxes.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Norosz stated they would be if a local tax were in effect.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilken asked  if an offshore  facility  that is limited  to                                                            
staying in one place for one year would have to pay a local tax.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Norosz replied  it would be if the vessel were  located within a                                                            
local  taxing  district.  She  continued  that  municipalities   and                                                            
boroughs have differing local tax structures.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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Senator Wilken  asked if the two permitted vessels  operate within a                                                            
local taxation area.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Norosz  responded  that  Icicle  Seafoods'  vessel  is  located                                                            
outside  of a  local taxing  district;  however,  Trident  Seafoods'                                                            
vessel does pay a local tax.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken  clarified that Trident would pay the  State-mandated                                                            
three percent tax as well  as the local tax. He furthered that under                                                            
this bill, Trident  would only be required to pay  the three percent                                                            
"so haven't we just flip-flopped that inequity."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Norosz responded  that  those who  are operating  on-shore  and                                                            
paying local  taxes also  receive benefits  such as fire and  police                                                            
protection,  access  to utilities  and  garbage service  from  those                                                            
communities. She  continued that dock and harbor space  is also made                                                            
available to them.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Norosz informed  the Committee that Icicle Seafoods  is required                                                            
to pay $300,000  for a moorage  system in  addition to paying  for a                                                            
water line to the ship.  She stated that Trident Seafoods pays a one                                                            
percent  local tax.  She  reiterated  that Dutch  Harbor  has a  two                                                            
percent local tax and since  taxes vary from community to community,                                                            
there could  not be equity.  She opined  that to create equity,  the                                                            
State could regulate the local taxation rates.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Norosz  summarized this bill as  requesting the State  charge an                                                            
equal rate to all Pollock processors.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken  understood Ms. Norris to be requesting  leveling out                                                            
the vessel  tax at  three percent,  whereby the  monies that  Icicle                                                            
Seafoods  pays for  services  at its location  would  equate to  the                                                            
monies  an  on-shore  processor  pays in  local  taxes  for  similar                                                            
services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Norosz replied yes,  on-shore processors are paying for services                                                            
that Icicle Seafoods is not receiving.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman stated  "mother ships" pay the three percent state                                                            
tax and do not pay local taxes.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Donley commented  that the different rates being charged by                                                            
communities  do  not appear  to  be the  problem  because  different                                                            
services are provided.  He continued that ships operating outside of                                                            
a  taxation  district  would  likely use  services  at  the  nearest                                                            
facility or community.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DAVE BENSON,  representing Trident  Seafoods Corporation,  testified                                                            
offnet to voice  the Corporation's support for this  bill. He stated                                                            
this  legislation  would  correct  the  situation   whereby  Trident                                                            
Seafood's  vessel,  the  Arctic  Enterprise,  and  Icicle  Seafoods'                                                            
vessel,  the Northern  Victor, "pay  a two percent  higher tax  rate                                                            
than other Pollock processors in the State."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Benson  stated that  the current  State Raw  Fish Tax for  shore                                                            
based pollock processors  and factory trawlers is three percent, and                                                            
shore-based  Pollock processors additionally  pay local taxes  where                                                            
applicable.  He stated the Arctic  Enterprise pays the five  percent                                                            
state tax and  a one percent local  tax for a total of six  percent.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Benson  stated Trident  Seafoods  has "no issue  with the  local                                                            
community  taxes;" however  requests the State  "to offer parity  on                                                            
the State fish  tax." He continued  this legislation "is  a surgical                                                            
fix affecting only two processors."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Benson  stated the  AFA  identified  the  three aforementioned                                                             
sectors  and  allocated  fish  harvesting  rights  to those  with  a                                                            
history in the  pollock fishing industry. He noted  the AFA provided                                                            
the State of Alaska the  authority to tax pollock harvesters fishing                                                            
in federal waters.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Benson  commented  earlier State  legislation  placed  a  three                                                            
percent  landing  tax  on  offshore  processors;  however,  the  AFA                                                            
mandates  that all pollock  offshore processors  are subject  to the                                                            
three percent State tax.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Benson  stated  this mandate  brought  equity  to  all  Pollock                                                            
processor  sectors except  the  two stationary  floating  processors                                                            
considered part  of the on-shore sector under the  AFA.  He stressed                                                            
this bill "simply  brings the overdue  parity to include  the Arctic                                                            
Enterprise  and  the Northern  Victor  at  the three  percent  state                                                            
fisheries business tax that the other sectors are now paying."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Benson informed  the Committee that floating processing  vessels                                                            
have  the  advantage  of  being able  to  process  fish  in  various                                                            
locations  throughout  Alaska, and  during  a year  move to  various                                                            
locations  and  process  pollock,   cod,  crab,  herring  and  other                                                            
species.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Benson  clarified  the two  mobile  floating  processors  would                                                            
continue to pay  a five percent tax on all non-pollock  species they                                                            
process.  He commented the  distinction between  these two  floating                                                            
processors  and others is  that these two  vessels, by federal  law,                                                            
process  pollock  in a  single geographic  location  throughout  the                                                            
entire  year and  cannot take  advantage  of the  ability to  change                                                            
locations when  it would be more efficient to do so.  He stated that                                                            
if the State reasons  that mobility is an asset and  levies a higher                                                            
tax based on that, Trident  Seafoods would concur; however currently                                                            
the Arctic  Enterprise  and the  Northern  Victor do  not have  that                                                            
advantage  since they are  required to process  pollock in  a single                                                            
location.  He  concluded  this  legislation  "simply  equalizes  the                                                            
Fisheries  Business Tax rate  with the other  shore side  processors                                                            
and the Landing  Tax" that shore side  processors are subject  to in                                                            
the pollock industry.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Benson  clarified that  an earlier question  asking if  changing                                                            
the definition  of factory trawlers to "allow movement  for periodic                                                            
repairs  and maintenance,"  and  inspection,  but not  to allow  for                                                            
processing  in other locations, would  not benefit Trident  Seafoods                                                            
situation  because   their  vessel,  the  Arctic  Enterprise,   also                                                            
processes salmon in another location during the year.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Ward asked if Trident  Seafoods owned the vessel, the Arctic                                                            
Enterprise, in 1998 when the AFA was enacted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Benson  stated  that  Trident  Seafoods  purchased  the  Arctic                                                            
Enterprise in July 1999.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARL  MOSES  informed  the  Committee  the  Northern                                                            
Victor  processing vessel's  original  owners purchased  the  vessel                                                            
with the  intent to  avoid paying  property and  sales taxes  to the                                                            
Municipality  of Unalaska.  He opined  the Northern  Victor and  the                                                            
Arctic  Enterprise's  current  owners  purchased  the vessels  at  a                                                            
purchase price that factored  in the five percent floating processor                                                            
tax as both vessels  were purchased after the five  percent tax went                                                            
into effect.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Moses  stated;  however, he  is sympathetic  to  the                                                            
inequity in these  and other fisheries taxes and voiced  support for                                                            
levying an  across-the-board five  percent tax with credits  allowed                                                            
for any municipality property taxes that are levied.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Moses commented that the State's current  ability to                                                            
collect  a landing tax  from all  processors is  questionable  as it                                                            
pertains to fish  caught outside the three-mile limit;  however, the                                                            
fishing  industry has  agreed  to pay the  tax without  requiring  a                                                            
court  decision.  He stated  it  might  be difficult  to  raise  the                                                            
landing  tax to  five percent  because  of the  question  as to  the                                                            
State's jurisdiction.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Moses  noted   the  State   taxes  salmon   cannery                                                            
processing activities at 4.5 percent.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Moses  stated  numerous   communities  within   his                                                            
District would lose the rebate money if this bill were enacted.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman asked how  communities receive the rebate money if the                                                            
processor is not located within their boundaries.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Moses  informed  the  Committee   the  tax  portion                                                            
identified  for the rebate  program "is pooled"  and distributed  to                                                            
communities involved.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman  asked for  clarification whether  the pool of  rebate                                                            
money  is  divided  amongst  the affected  communities  or  all  the                                                            
communities in the program.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Moses stated  it is distributed to all communities in                                                            
the affected area.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Leman,   referring  to  the  credit  Representative   Moses                                                            
suggested for municipality  levied taxes, asked how payments in lieu                                                            
of taxes for water, garbage and the like, might be addressed.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Moses  opined  that numerous  fishermen  attempt  to                                                            
avoid paying taxes,  but still use a community's facilities  such as                                                            
the  landfill.  He   continued  that  processing  vessels   generate                                                            
significant waste that is deposited in these landfills.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman  ascertained that most landfills have  a fee structure                                                            
in place to recoup costs of providing services.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Moses  responded  the  rates  are  not   adequately                                                            
charged. He informed  that federal law mandates that  any place with                                                            
a dock is required  to receive waste  from any vessel that  uses the                                                            
dock, and it may be provided at no charge to the vessel.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Ward suggested  that  if taxes  were reduced,  the  fishing                                                            
industry would  have more disposable  income to benefit communities                                                             
and employees.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman confirmed  that  the State  tax monies  collected                                                            
from  vessels operating  outside  of a  defined local  district  are                                                            
pooled and  rebated to communities  in the common area. He  informed                                                            
the Committee  that  if this bill  were enacted,  Kodiak would  lose                                                            
approximately $10,000 and  Unalaska would lose approximately $60,000                                                            
in rebate monies from that pool.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman reminded  the Committee  this bill addresses  the                                                            
State tax on  fisheries and that a  vessel's location is  a separate                                                            
issue.  He  stated  the  Unalaska  City  Council  voiced  a  neutral                                                            
position on this bill.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Moses stated  the Aleutian  East Borough could  lose                                                            
approximately $170,000 in rebate monies.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly ordered the Bill to be HELD in Committee.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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